Episode Summary

Archenemy of the show, Dave Baker, joins hosts John and David to talk about the reality of comic book publishing, the real reason John is part of the show, the Fantastic Four movie vs the comics, and Dave’s new Halloween Boy issues. Also Dave starts a new career as a DJ, and Jim McCann may have had lunch.

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Timestamp Segments

• [01:00] Dave’s DJ career.
• [02:57] Reminiscing about 70s comics.
• [04:02] The Nacelleverse happened.
• [05:39] David’s Sugar Bomb.
• [07:16] The importance of marketing.
• [10:26] Unusual connections to comic books.
• [13:06] Comics creators living the good life.
• [17:47] Why John is still part of the show.
• [21:00] The Fantastic Four movie.
• [32:29] The movie vs the comics.
• [45:28] Warren Ellis can do no wrong (in comics).
• [50:47] Dave’s Halloween Boy.
• [62:06] Jim McCann fun fact of the week.

Notable Quotes

• “Comic book publishers still think it’s 2001.”
• “This is why I let John Barber stay on the show.”
• “I’m actually a real-life boy.”

Books Mentioned

• Alec, The Goat Getters: Jack Johnson, the Fight of the Century, and How a Bunch of Raucous Cartoonists Reinvented Comics, by Eddie Campbell.
• The Amazing Spider-Man (2014).
• Avengers Annual #7, Marvel Two-in-One Annual #2, by Jim Starlin & Joseph Rubinstein.
• Biker Mice from Mars, by Melissa Flores & Daniel Gete.
• C.O.W.-Boys of Moo Mesa, by Matt Hotson & Juan Gedeon.
• The Darkstars (1992-1996).
• Fantastic Four (#48, #49, #50), by Stan Lee & Jack Kirby.
• Flinch.
• From Hell, by Alan Moore & Eddie Campbell.
• The Great Garloo, by Leon Reiser & AJ Jothikumar.
• Halloween Boy Vol.7, by Dave Baker.
• Iron Man: The Art of Iron Man 2, by John Barber.
• Kate Carew: America's First Great Woman Cartoonist, by Eddie Campbell & Christine Chambers.
• The Magic Order.