In this episode, Brandon speaks with Ryan Gattis who is the author of the new book "The System." The two discuss writing and justice reform. Among the other topics covered: The business of publishing, what it takes to become a writer, the prison system, how writing can help rehabilitate people, drug policy, the "defund the police" movement, and more.

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