In this first episode of Inclusion Evolution, Lisa and Mike ask the question whether law firms are and will ever make meaningful progress on diversity and inclusion or whether such efforts are doomed to lag for the foreseeable future. Listen as they discuss ways to get more lawyers and clients engaged in diversity, equity and inclusion and how hiring diverse individuals is simply not enough. The podcast concludes with recommendations of what law firms as well as clients can do to help move the needle forward and faster on diversity, equity and inclusion.