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On this 232nd episode of Heroes (Monday, April 2nd, 2018), Jon Schnepp, Robert Meyer Burnett, John Rocha and Jay Washington discuss the following from the world of Heroes and Villians:
Are Superhero films in trouble for 2018 and beyond?
Outside of Marvel studios, every other company has had a very hard time establishing their brand, let alone a cohesive universe. What is the problem?
Are the studio executives in charge so out of touch that they are fumbling and tripping up what should be the easiest delivery imaginable?
The comics have decades of incredible stories, with lots of production design and art for a jumping off point.
We have seen many films be shut down and reshot, due to executives second guessing their own audience, and serving up a giant failure sandwich almost every time.
When will these failures add up to letting the filmmakers actually do their jobs or is it ultimately the executive whose job it is to make these final and mostly fatal decisions. We remember the failures, but what about the success when this has happened?
Mike Allred’s Madman, Howard Chaykin’s American Flagg, Frank Miller’s Martha Washington.
Are some of these characters not built for this kind of storytelling? Are certain books and comic books not translatable to the big screen or as a series or mini-series?
Bizarre characters like Marvel’s Foolkiller, DC’s Inferior Five, Image’s The Darkness. What makes certain characters so easy to identify with, while others are too remote or too goofy or too unrealistic?
With these massive shared universes, with many companies planning out these giant event films years in advance that all tie in with each other, is this the way to continue, or should stand-alone adventures be the new franchises? We have both right now, but companies follow the money.
Similar to comics, these characters must have a turnover rate every few years to remain fresh and current. What worked for the 90’s is out in the early aughts, as is the same right now. We have actors and actresses who have lived as certain characters for over a decade, and now even entire worlds of characters must be reborn?
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By ColliderOn this 232nd episode of Heroes (Monday, April 2nd, 2018), Jon Schnepp, Robert Meyer Burnett, John Rocha and Jay Washington discuss the following from the world of Heroes and Villians:
Are Superhero films in trouble for 2018 and beyond?
Outside of Marvel studios, every other company has had a very hard time establishing their brand, let alone a cohesive universe. What is the problem?
Are the studio executives in charge so out of touch that they are fumbling and tripping up what should be the easiest delivery imaginable?
The comics have decades of incredible stories, with lots of production design and art for a jumping off point.
We have seen many films be shut down and reshot, due to executives second guessing their own audience, and serving up a giant failure sandwich almost every time.
When will these failures add up to letting the filmmakers actually do their jobs or is it ultimately the executive whose job it is to make these final and mostly fatal decisions. We remember the failures, but what about the success when this has happened?
Mike Allred’s Madman, Howard Chaykin’s American Flagg, Frank Miller’s Martha Washington.
Are some of these characters not built for this kind of storytelling? Are certain books and comic books not translatable to the big screen or as a series or mini-series?
Bizarre characters like Marvel’s Foolkiller, DC’s Inferior Five, Image’s The Darkness. What makes certain characters so easy to identify with, while others are too remote or too goofy or too unrealistic?
With these massive shared universes, with many companies planning out these giant event films years in advance that all tie in with each other, is this the way to continue, or should stand-alone adventures be the new franchises? We have both right now, but companies follow the money.
Similar to comics, these characters must have a turnover rate every few years to remain fresh and current. What worked for the 90’s is out in the early aughts, as is the same right now. We have actors and actresses who have lived as certain characters for over a decade, and now even entire worlds of characters must be reborn?
Follow Schnepp: https://twitter.com/JonSchnepp
Follow Robert: https://twitter.com/BurnettRM
Follow Rocha: https://twitter.com/TheRochaSays
Follow Jay: https://twitter.com/MrJayWashington
Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ColliderVideo
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As the online source for movies, television, breaking news, incisive content, and imminent trends, Collider is more than an essential destination. Visit Collider: http://collider.com
Follow the site on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Collider
Subscribe to the SCHMOES KNOW channel: https://youtube.com/schmoesknow
And for even more great Collider Video content, check out our weekly schedule below and follow the links to peruse episodes both old and new. We’re your go-to destination for all things fandom.
COLLIDER MOVIE TALK - Weekdays 12PM ET / 9AM PT
Entertainment News, Roundtable discussion and debate
http://bit.ly/29BRtOO
COLLIDER HEROES - Mondays & Wednesdays 5PM ET / 2PM PT
The latest news and speculation in the world of comic book movies, television, and graphic novels
http://bit.ly/29F4Job
COLLIDER JEDI COUNCIL - Thursdays 5PM ET / 2PM PT
What's new in the Star Wars universe and what we can expect from all the upcoming movies, novels, comics and more
http://bit.ly/29v5wVi
MOVIE TRIVIA SCHMOEDOWN - Tuesdays & Fridays 5PM ET / 2PM PT
Head-to-head game show that turns trivia into a fierce competition
http://bit.ly/29C2iRV
Plus MOVIE & TV REVIEWS, INTERVIEWS, BREAKING NEWS, EDITORIALS, MAILBAG, MOVIE COMMENTARIES, VR GAMING, COMIC BOOK SHOPPING and much more each week. Subscribe today! http://bit.ly/2z80n4O