The Athletic's Nottingham Forest experts Nick Miller and Paul Taylor join host Matt Davies-Adams, after 4 mad minutes against Norwich as the mistakes continue to cost Hughton's Reds... 

What's happened to Brice Samba's form and is it affecting the defence... or should that be the other around? Is Joe Worrall aiming for more than a move to Burnley and is it high time we accept Forest are in a relegation battle this season? 

Plus, the guys look ahead to games against Brentford and Sheffield Wednesday, and ask if the team's new signings could be struggling to gel because of Covid's social restrictions? 

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