This week Allan is joined by Nipun Gupta, and industry veteran who has been a consultant, practitioner, vendor, advisor and investor.

The topic is "What are we really protecting in cyber?" and the nuances of that question are explored in depth - as well as the interrelationships.

Is "protect the business" a guardrail statement while "protect data and people" is the mission?

How do we tie protecting people to protecting the business?  For the people?  For the business?

How do we map data to the business mission?

How far do we go to protect data?

What about this new DevOps, application-centric world?

Enjoy this conversation!  It's a lively one.