This past weekend, police in the North West starved more than 200 illegal miners underground at a mine in Orkney. The hungry and dehydrated Zama zamas were forced to come out straight into the hands of awaiting police. This is part of the police's 'vala umgodi' campaign, loosely translated in English means 'close the hole'. As good as this sounds for the police and the nation, is it the correct approach in dealing with illegal mining? Often communities where illegal mining takes place complain about the violence and crime when rival groups fight for territory. 

Guest: Kgothatso Nhlengetwa  - Artisanal Mining Expert

Guest:  Busi Thabane - General Manager at the Benchmark Foundation