Welcome back to your weekly podcast with Erik and myself, Ryan. This episode has hints of calculated risk and genuity. Eriks talks music career goals. As I reflect it’s quite a crazy jump; how many people do you know have quit their career for something brand new? Shout out to Ammie. He speaks on his plans to become a stage performer and meet in the Oakland music scene.

We dive into concepts presented in the book Storyworthy by Matthew Dicks: how to tell a casual, yet touching story, and how storytelling relates to being a generous conversationalist. We talk about the feeling of choosing an organic career and finish with a Rose, Bud, Thorn! Please enjoy.