It’s easy to talk yourself out of what you do best, especially when that’s insurance.

It’s hard to get people to care about other things when you’re just starting something new.

Solving problems is the most valuable thing you can do, you just need the confidence in your ability to do it in different place.

Once you do then it will be a lot easier to tell a story beyond insurance.

That’s what you’ll hear in this casual conversation with Gabe Oh, of Western Pacific Insurance Group, at IAOA’s Innovation 18 conference.

P.S. If you missed Innovation you probably don’t want to miss Elevate 18.