Have you ever worked in a place where people seemed more focused on not making mistakes than on actually pursuing excellence? It’s a culture where "playing it safe" becomes the unwritten rule.

This episode was sparked by a powerful quote from Mark Goulston's book, "Just Listen," that perfectly captures this dynamic. We use that one idea as a launchpad to explore three critical areas:

• The kind of team culture you create when mistakes are punished instead of seen as part of the process.
• Why leaders themselves often become risk-averse, focusing more on protecting their image and position than on shaking things up.
• What to do when you find yourself in this situation—and the personal cost of constantly going against what you know is right.

This is a conversation about building more courageous teams and, just as importantly, finding the courage to act with integrity. Hope you'll join me.