It is the 20th anniversary of the Agile Manifesto, reason to speak with one of the authors of the manifesto, Arie Van Bennekum. In this episode we look back at his career and how he ended up in the snowbird in Utah on Feb 11-13, 2001. We ended up speaking about the time before the agile manifesto was created, the weekend itself and of course the impact of the manifesto on the community and himself. If you like to hear first hand from one of the authors of the agile manifesto, this one is for you.