Aly Tadros and Arielle Isaac Norman discuss their kink relationship, their relationships to kink, "Slave Play" - the most Tony-nominated play in history - consent versus desire, Dom/Sub dynamics, safe words, the origins of kinky desires, how kink can make you a better person and improve all your relationships, and "white" passing.

AlyTadros.com
Aly's Twitter and Instagram @AlyTadros

ArielleIsaacNorman.com
Insta: @EllenDegenderless
Twit: @DemiBinarielle

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Thanks as always to Caleb Sexton for the artwork and Coleman Wilson for the music.