Michael Mackie is a writer and occasional game show TV host. He joins Jen to discuss what to pack for a day trip to Mt. Everest. No wait, that's a different podcast. On this episode, M2 (as he's known to his friends) and Jen cover everything from Michael's grooming habits to interviewing celebrities from the 70s and 80s to who has the bigger ego to what animal Michael thinks he most resembles.

Follow Michael at: https://www.michaelmackie.com/