From engineering management to product management to PhD in education to lifelong love for tutoring and now running product for Chegg, we had a blast chatting with Arnon, this time with a focus on managing the PM department. Favorite quotes: "a lot of it is building that trust and building what's called second order model thinking of the person across the table". 2nd Order Thinking: https://thriveglobal.com/stories/second-order-thinking-what-smart-people-use-to-outperform-2/ Also: "What does it take to make a really good VP of product? Not take things too seriously? The product function gets knocked down daily and hourly, it's like don't sweat the small stuff, and it's all small stuff"