In this week's show we look back on a disappointing day at Wembley which saw Arsenal lose the Carabao Cup final 3-0 to Man City. We discuss the performance, individual and collective mistakes, why we couldn't get up for a final, and the big focus of this podcast is the manager. How much of what's happening is because of Arsene Wenger's future? How inevitable is change and is it possible that it could come sooner rather than later? What role do the board have in the current situation? All this, plus some efforts to find a silver lining late on.

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