Good result? Bad result? Something in between? Manchester City drew 0-0 with Arsenal and City fan David Mooney is joined by The Athletic's City correspondent, Sam Lee, to reflect on what it all means - and if any conclusions can be drawn. They focus on Kevin De Bruyne, Pep Guardiola's substitutions, and Jeremy Doku's impact on the game.

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