Chris is joined by Nate Azark, of 12 Line Studio, to talk about art, design, and conversion. They chat about Nate's start as an artist, his transition from analog to digital design, his thoughts on art versus design in general and whether art needs to be sacrificed for conversion, and what trends Nate sees coming over the next ten years.

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