Hi there! This a podcast where two guys talk about the journey of life and faith. We explore issues in the world together, and issues in Christianity. And how they're more messy than they seem!

This is one of two parts of one complete conversation that we had together.

The conversation that took place basically centres around life as worship, as was discussed in a previous conversation, and how that looks in terms of sleep, sleep patterns and how that idea has manifested in different cultures around the world. We also delve into the area of art and how that concept of sleep and rest in cultural contexts has manifested in art, and has allowed us both to embrace the idea of art as a particular element of that rest that is actually vitally important and not just "optional".

In this particular episode, Ben delves into some of his personal inspirations about art and in particular a film critic by the name of Armond White who, for him, has come to represent "quality" art. People may not be aware, but Armond White is a Christian voice, and a Christian voice in the arts - especially in the realm of the critical arts - is a rare voice indeed. A YouTuber by the name of Jonathan Pageau is also recommended. He is an Orthodox Christian who delves into the realm of symbology in church history and as it has manifested in the rest of culture.