In this week's episode of Just Friends, Jude and Lula are joined by fellow Yalie, Tilman Phleger, for a deep-dive into the intricacies of art and… philosophy? They tackle the academic incentives behind the art major, critique culture, art’s therapeutic role in coping with trauma, and the paradoxically liberating and haunting aspects of optimistic nihilism. Plus, Tilman explains why crafting art that mirrors — and not mimics — the artist is the key to survival in the world of art.

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Insta: @tilmanphleger
Web: www.tphlegerdesign.com