This week we spoke to Natasha Matila-Smith - whose exhibition I Think You Like Me, But I've Been Wrong About These Things Before is open at Artspace Aotearoa through May 1 - about affect, sculpture fabrication, and irony in humour. Later on, Katie Kerr came into the studio to discuss Dwelling in the Margins, a collection of essays on art publishing, as well as the Patti-Smith themed origins of her publishing project Gloria Books.