This week, Taarati Taiaroa spoke with us about Toi Tū Toi Ora: Contemporary Māori Art, the largest exhibition in Auckland Art Gallery Toi o Tāmaki's 132 year history. Taarati, assistant curator of Māori art at AAG, discussed the exhibition's development and conceptual propositions. Later on we had a conversation with Natasha Ratuva and Hōhua Ropate Kurene about Inside the wave are ocean bodies, their exhibition on Tautai Contemporary Pacific Arts Trust's Moana Wall.