This is an episode of the old podcast, called Artists on the Verge. I decided to keep these conversations up in the feed because they are, in fact, part of what led me to create Classically (Un)Trained. I have taken down all except the artist interviews - but you can check out an expanded archive here: https://classicallyuntrainedpodcast.com/former-podcast-archive/

Check out the current podcast here: https://classicallyuntrainedpodcast.com/

Christoph Ogiermann is a multi-instrumentalist, composer, and improvisor based in Bremen, Germany. He is founder of Klank, a quartet of musicians who improvise on everything from their instruments to cardboard boxes or balloons.   

We talk about feeling like an outsider, the ballet of improvising on piano, the Kafkaesque bureaucracy of German arts funding and also how well supported many German artists are, building one’s music career around making opportunities for others, and playing on boxes, among other things.  

🎵Music:  

Schubert's Symphony No. 8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWnKMzAedK4

Malcolm Goldstein, Vision Soundings, "From Center of Rainbow": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBbiVI8IkeI

Klank improvisations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogXwSwrf-6A

TOCH M for feedbacking Voice Transformer (Ogiermann): https://soundcloud.com/ogiermann/toch-m-for-feedbacking-voice-transformer

Cheryl Ong & Vivian Wang, "Singaporous": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8qYF70FlZw 

Klank website: https://www.klank.cc/en/ 

💋👁👂🏼 For moe about this podcast: https://onthevergetrilogy.com/