Today we are joined by Altaz Valani from Security Compass and Arun Prabhakar, Security Consultant at Security Compass, to talk about product security. We start by talking about both product and software security, where there are similarities and differences. We then turn the conversation to look at quality and the categories of metrics that help make secure products. At the end of our discussion, we discuss where hardware security is headed in the future. This area of product security is an important topic in light of  the growing convergence between hardware and software layers.