Host Andy Ash (CISO at Netacea) is joined by Arve Kjoelen, who recently left a six-year stint as CISO of McAfee to join startup CynomIQ as Chief Solutions Officer. In this episode they discuss differences in how CISOs are compensated across both sides of the Atlantic, how the role is shifting to account for increased governance and regulations, and the 'left of boom' approach to preventative security. Andy and Arve also compare notes on how they first become fascinated with security and their own paths to the position of CISO.