On episode five of Stay Reading, we were joined by artist, curator and creative director Ashley McKenzie-Barnes (@ashleymckenziebarnes) and writer Shawn Micallef (@shawnmicallef) for a conversation that was centred on how the written word is connected to physical places. We spoke about Olivia Laing and swimming in New York City, Dionne Brand and sunsets on Dupont, touched places almost no one will ever experience through the Pocket Atlas of Remote Places and a hair-rising life and death ride of a big wave surfer. We also got into how the views of Geoff Colvin and Malcolm Gladwell on talent connect to Alain de Botton’s ideas on love.