In this, the first episode of a new Podcast series from the Australia Security Industry Association Limited (ASIAL), we speak with Dr Anthony Bergin, Senior Analyst with the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) and Don Williams, thought leader and independent security consultant. Anthony and Don are co-author's of a recently released paper titled Safety In Numbers, which looks at the role of private security in Australia's counter terrorism arrangements. Joining the podcast we also have Bryan de Caires, Chief Executive Officer of ASIAL and John Bigelow of Security Solutions.