Does conviction of sin come before or after regeneration? And how much misery is actually required before someone can come to Christ? In this episode of Ask FGBC, Pastors Jim Butler and Cameron Porter work through a question that touches on the order of salvation, the nature of conversion, and the pastoral danger of requiring a measurable period of grief before offering someone the free promise of the gospel. Ask FGBC is a digital ministry providing biblical, pastoral, and confessional answers to real questions submitted by believers, seekers, and those wrestling with assurance. Recorded with Pastor Jim Butler and Pastor Cameron Porter on November 15, 2025. Submit your own question and see previous topics: https://www.freegrace.ca/ask There is an option to do it anonymously. Videos are available on SermonAudio, Youtube and Facebook. Please like & share on our social media profiles as well to get the word out and distribute further!