In this episode, hosts Dr. Clayton Wilcox and Dr. Ray McNulty are joined by Fred Bramante, longtime New Hampshire education leader, former Chair of the State Board of Education, and author of Off the Clock, for an eye-opening conversation on the future of personalized, competency-based learning.

Fred shares lessons from his decades of leadership and unveils his latest vision: what if schools started by asking students what they want to learn—and then made that part of their personal curriculum? It’s a transformational idea that puts student interests and aspirations at the heart of education.

Together, Fred, Dr. Wilcox, and Dr. McNulty explore how schools can move beyond traditional models to empower student voice, spark passion-driven learning, and create a more relevant, meaningful educational experience.

Tune in for a powerful discussion on reimagining school from the student out—and how bold leadership can make it happen.