This episode is all over the place! Isaac and Charles begin with a discussion about a recent Sam Harris podcast on the ways apps vie for our attention. Sam Harris might have an ASMR voice and Isaac learns about creepy ASMR videos and then complains about annoying Ira Glass-style voices on podcasts like S-Town and Missing Richard Simmons. Charles objects to Isaac's assertion that the government owning less land will ease the housing crisis and Isaac displays his distaste for national parks. A little something for everyone!