This episode we talk about Asmus Tietchens' album "Schatten Ohne Licht" which was released late 2022 by Black Rose Recordings.   0:00 introduction 0:30 track 1 excerpt 1:19 first chat : Schatten Ohne Licht 13:50 track1 second excerpt 15:52 second chat : Tietchens and absolute music 30:30 track 1 third excerpt and outro  More information about Asmus Tietchens can be read in the monography that has been written in 2006 and which was released by AufAbwegen. https://shop.aufabwegen.de/asmus-tiet...There is a rumour that a new edition is in preparation that also has an English translation.  More information about Black Rose Recordings : https://www.contrastate.com/products DISCLAIMER: this talk and the video are completely experimental. We learn while doing it. We welcome your suggestions for improvement or other topics.