To those that think it’s impossible to ramp up the intensity without ever lifting a weight or turning on the elliptical machine, think again. Joe and Brian meet up with Land Tawney at quite a telling location to discuss the sweat equity they put into their passions. It’s time to turn up the heat!

Topics discussed:

- The most visited and successful wilderness in America

- It’s our job to use our voice

- The “Oh my god!” moment

- Losing a father at a young age

- The Land Legacy Effect: Teller Wildlife Refuge

- Raiding Retirement Homes

- A quick way to raise $60k and lose 20lbs

- Hiking in moon boots and platform shoes

- Hunting benefits and drawbacks after a scorched earth

- The ridiculousness of coming home to mow the lawn

- Solace of the wild

- When to embrace the grit and when to throw in the towel 

- Long distance equestrian riders

- Sometimes it’s learning the story of being a Public Land Owner

- Democracy is driven by those that show up 

- 5 ways to turn up the heat as a Backcountry Hunters and Anglers (BHA) member

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