Resilience is often praised, but rarely examined for what it costs.

In this final episode of Season One, Hanisha turns the tables and becomes the guest, sharing how resilience was shaped through childhood trauma, survival, and early responsibility. Together, Hanisha and Jared explore how resilience can begin as a necessity, how it evolves over time, and what it looks like when survival is no longer required.

This conversation unpacks dissociation, emotional regulation, leadership, immigrant identity, and the slow, intentional work of healing. It closes with a reflection on perseverance, belief, and what it means to choose resilience with softness instead of armor.

1. 00:00 Introduction to Resilience
2. 02:29 Childhood Trauma and Resilience
3. 15:48 The Evolution of Resilience
4. 18:51 Disassociation vs Resilience
5. 22:30 Emotional Resilience via Processing Your Emotions
6. 28:10 Resilience as an Adult
7. 36:30 What is Soft Resilience?
8. 42:14 Leading with Resilience
9. 48:14 Jumpstarting Resilience and having Role Models
10. 52:39 Do immigrants have natural resilience?
11. 56:58 The Cost of Resilience
12. 01:06:34 Personal Evolution and Navigating Therapy
13. 01:14:59 Reflecting on the Season and What is at the Root of Resilience?