Jigar Shah is the founder of SunEdison, a former CEO of the Carbon War Room, and is currently the President of Generate Capital.

He is also a member of The Energy Gang on Greentech Media.

Jigar and I have been engaged in some lively discussions on Twitter about the future of solar and nuclear energy as businesses and as carbon free electricity generating sources.

Though I love the sun, I remain convinced that collected solar energy has only limited usefulness in supplying the kind of controllable, on demand power needed to run a modern society. In my analysis, atomic fission is the new fire that will take humanity to new heights of prosperity while enabling us to consume far less material. Doing more while consuming less will enable a cleaner, more evenly abundant, more inhabitable, less contentious planet for all human beings.

Jigar has a different point of view. He believes that solar energy development is a multi-trillion dollar opportunity. In addition to his commercial ventures, Jigar published a book titled Creating Climate Wealth: Unlocking the Impact Economy. Though he has spent his professional career developing solar energy, he has been intrigued by the potential of nuclear energy since he was 16.

Jigar has been far more successful in developing and marketing his vision than I have been. He has some tough-love advice for the nuclear industry and the people who want to see nuclear energy grow as a source of clean, abundant energy.

Last night, we decided to continue our sparring in an audio conversation. I hope you will agree that our engagement was lively and worth the time you invest in listening to it.

We still see the world through dramatically different lenses, but there is much that we can each learn from the other’s point of view.

I hope this will not be the last discussion that you will hear featuring the two of us.