In the second of our off season episodes, blue Gary Judge and red Terry McGivern, discuss the latest goings on for both clubs including Rafael Benitez' Everton press conference, where his backroom team were confirmed, Liverpool's pre-season camp in Austria, which sees the return of key players from injury, as well some discussion of England's Euro 2021 final defeat to Italy. Also covered is some early gossip on some possible incomings and outgoings at both clubs, with Everton links to defenders and Liverpool link to a host of midfielders.