Joe Tezak has worked hard to have an impressive career with the Department of Homeland Security for almost twenty years now. He’s found enjoyment in multiple hobbies including skydiving, rowing, and dancing (he’s definitely going to need to give me some  dance lessons) .He’s living a life of fun and success, but in order to get to where he is today, he had to first endure some dark times in life. In this episode  Anthony and Joe discuss dealing with life’s detours, finding your way out of dark places, and why it's important to treat your challenges like an opponent.

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