In this quick one-off recording (not based on a chapter from my book at all), I challenge these two gentlemen to debate me as to why they still believe in God. Klavan was a well known atheist and now is not? How did he arrive at that? Shapiro was offended by someone's suggestion that he clearly had not done his homework on the subject. I'd say in his life he's dome more homework than most. But how do you get there to belief in God? And why? How does a great debater (Ben) and philosopher (Andrew) end up right back in the camp of a belief in a 3-letter word, or a 7-letter one, or a one-letter word not to be spoken out loud. Whatever.