My inaugural interview guest is Drew Austin, (AKA Kneeling Bus). Drew regularly produces some of the most thought-provoking essays about tech and urban planning. I encourage you to check out his weekly newsletter. We dive into everything AirPods, audio, AR, and urban planning.

Some audio-related ideas of his to check out:

* Always in: wireless headphones are AR devices

* Paleo Internet, a conception of gourmet internet that made me bullish on audio

* White Noise, which contains a passage I’ve read and re-read many times out loud to friends about digital vs physical life. Must read.

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