It’s August 2024 and we catch up a little bit as we ease back into a new recording schedule.

Derek’s show that Dane mentioned: https://www.youtube.com/@magicandstuffshow

Content Warnings:

Profanity

Dane’s writing, podcast and substack can be found here: http://danewrites.com

Derek’s films and other work can be found here: http://benigfilms.com 

Hosted by 

Dane Fogdall and Derek Benig

Season 4 cover art by the incredible Jennifer Zemke! (@freshwaterbear)

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