In this recording I stated I had two attorneys and I did have two attorneys at one time. I did not pay for these attorneys and the reason why I had to attorneys is one attorney is the attorney I had hired to file a lawsuit against the Texas annual conference of the United Methodist Church because they employed my abuser who was also my father who sexually assaulted me as a child. His name was Harris and Fisher and the other attorney I hired was Elsie Martin Simon and I consulted with Elsie Martin Simon also on a pro bono basis. I was able to obtain two attorneys without paying for it because of who I knew but the hardest lesson I’ve learned in life is that who you know it’s not always beneficial. It depends on what you’re going up against and in this battle I was not just going up against a battle with my ex-husband but I was also taking on a battle with a multibillion dollar administration that had a history of employing united Methodist minister‘s who are sexual predators of children. In this recording you also hear my ex-husband acknowledge that he should not have said that he really wished I did not exist anymore and he did say that on multiplications and I have multiple recordings of him saying that to me. It’s interesting that he felt it was acceptable to tell me that he really wishes I didn’t exist anymore considering the fact that he tells everyone and told the court that I was mentally ill. It seems to me that possibly if someone is mentally ill or you’re telling people that this person is mentally ill that you might not want to tell them that you really wish they didn’t exist anymore. I don’t really think that this is something you should say to anyone for any reason but unfortunately my ex-husband’s mother that lives with him I guess was too busy to teach him that it could also be because his mother did not raise him his father did.

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