In this episode of AUHSD Future Talks, Superintendent Matsuda interviews Dr. George Philhower, Superintendent of Eastern Hancock Schools. During the talk, Dr. Philhower discusses his journey, joy in schools, connecting joy to a career pathway, work-based learning experiences, the value of higher education, measuring student learning, microschooling, the role of artificial intelligence, being a kayak, and building innovation/being nimble.