Fran and Jason finally catch the last time-traveling ape in the PS1 classic, Ape Escape. Dig in on our conversation about peripherals, physical dexterity in games, and the power...of the DUAL SHOCK CONTROLLER!

Spoilers at 57 min

Francisco is a game designer and engineer, while Jason brings a literary background to each game analysis as they piece together the why and how of our favorite games. If you'd like to support the show please join us on Discord or leave us a review on Spotify and Apple Podcasts-we've love to chat!

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Art and Research by Francisco Martin

Editing by Jason Weiss

Theme music by William O'Rourke