SwirlAI founder Aurimas Griciūnas helps tech professionals transition into AI roles and works with organizations to create AI strategy and develop AI systems. Aurimas joins Ben to discuss the changes he’s seen over the past couple years with the rise of generative AI and where we’re headed with agents. Aurimas and Ben dive into some of the differences between ML-focused workloads and those implemented by AI engineers—particularly around LLMOps and agentic workflows—and explore some of the concerns animating agent systems and multi-agent systems. Along the way, they share some advice for keeping your talent pipeline moving and your skills sharp. Here’s a tip: Don’t dismiss junior engineers.