In our first of 2 post-ARCM episodes we have a very "shop talk" conversation with the reigning AuSable River Canoe Marathon Champions and record holders Jorden Wakeley and Matt Meersman.  We talk on a ton of different topics from choosing the boat based on the seats, to paddle lengths, all the way to what happens when you gotta go.  Truly a great episode with some great open-book champions.  Very happy that we were able to have these guys on the show and wish them all the best in the years to come.