In this podcast, our 5th episode of AHAA! Moments, we hear Part 2 of Avril Henry's deep, entertaining and illuminating discussion with Australia's leading demographer, Bernard Salt. Avril and Bernard discuss the rise of China, artificial intelligence, the workforce of the future and expanding our understanding of the impact of global mega trends on Australia - especially now in the era of COVID-19. They dig deep into their immense collective leadership experience and expertise to also discuss how Australia will need to manage its relationship with China going forward into the 2020's. We also hear about the clear data that predicts that the largest population of Australian's born somewhere else will be Chinese by the mid 2020s, and what this means for us all. Bernard illuminates us with his own research into what he refers to as the "trust deficit" with Governments, institutions and corporation's and we even find out the real story behind his most famous of coined phrases globally - "smashed avocado".