Australian Ethical, a fund manager and asset owner, is escalating its engagement with QBE – an insurance company over fossil fuel financing and climate risk management. Amanda Richman, ethical stewardship lead at Australian Ethical joins Atharva Deshmukh to discuss the role of insurers in facilitating fossil fuel expansion, the history of Australian Ethical's engagement with QBE and how Australian Ethical is responding to QBE's unsatisfactory progress.