I have one dubious claim to fame. I am the only journalist in Australia to have interviewed every PM since Robert Menzies. All except one – the current one. ScoMo. I interviewed him as Treasurer, and Immigration Minister but not in the top job. We planned to but I got voted out.

I interviewed Menzies in 1964. I was 20. I thought Laurie Oakes or Michelle Grattan would beat me but Laurie told me he first interviewed Menzies in 1967 when he had retired and Grattan joined the press gallery later than that. So my record stands.