In this episode, I sit down with Darryl Bishop, MNZM, to talk about authentic leadership and the future of mental health. We look back on our time working together on Like Minds, Like Mine—one of the most successful and internationally recognised public health programmes designed to challenge stigma and discrimination around mental distress. Widely respected and admired in Aotearoa and beyond, the programme remains a powerful example of what’s possible when lived experience leads the way. Darryl and I also explore the changes within the mental health sector, the realities of working in not-for-profit organisations, and the challenges still facing many in the field today. It’s an honest and inspiring conversation that connects the past, present, and future of mental health leadership. Darryl is currently the Group CEO of Ember Group, with over 20 years of experience leading large-scale health projects, and holds qualifications in leadership, mental health, and psychology.

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