It's amazing the types of conversations you can have when both people go in with a strong foundation of humility, curiosity, and thoughtfulness. There is such an opportunity to explore each other's beliefs, question our assumptions, examine interesting aspects of life, in honest and open ways. I say it all the time, because it is true--this is where the learning happens. This is where I uncover insights about myself and the world around me that I never could have otherwise. That is why I enjoyed this conversation so much with my guest Lisa. We discussed and debated some fundamental questions about life, like:

As a way of background, Lisa is a parenting author, a nationally syndicated columnist, and a radio host. She writes the syndicated opinion column “It Is What It Is” and is the author of "How to Raise Perfectly Imperfect Kids And Be Ok With It" (along with a number of other books). She is also a survivor of suicide loss and is a vocal advocate for suicide awareness & prevention, most notably working as a crisis counselor with the Trevor Project (whose mission is to end suicide among LGBTQ young people). As you will hear, Lisa has unfortunately had a long history with suicide, including her father who died when she was 10 but she did not find out for over 30 years that he actually took his own life. 

We ended the conversation talking about the work Lisa is doing now around suicide prevention. We talked about her relationship with suicide now and what she has learned from her time as a crisis counselor. Hearing Lisa share her insights from some of the most intense conversations any human will ever be a part of was really powerful. I can't thank her enough for being on the show and for all the great work she is doing.