Karen Dybis, the author of Secret Detroit: A Guide to the Weird, Wonderful, and Obscure, stops by the podcast to talk about her new book. Also, author Karen Dionne talks about the prospect of her best-selling novel, The Marsh King's Daughter, getting turned into a major motion picture. Kevin Peterson and Jane Larsen talk about Sfumato and Castalia, their Midtown fragrance company that doubles as a craft cocktail bar.