In this episode, hosts Justin and Nathan sit down with special guest Matt to dive deep into the topic of avoidance and its impact on the recovery journey. They discuss the ways avoidance can hinder progress, the fears and insecurities that fuel it, and practical strategies for confronting and overcoming this common challenge. Whether you're in recovery yourself or supporting someone who is, this conversation offers valuable insights and real talk on breaking the cycle of avoidance and moving forward with confidence.

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